Tillerson and Bishop Meet

Tillerson and Bishop Meet

I think Rex Tillerson is doing a great job. I love Julie Bishop from Australia and have been writing for years about how key she is to getting anything done with Australia, and today I read about their joint appearance and it thrilled me. As you “Faithful Five” are aware, I have been pushing a new Naval Plan – that would lease 2 U.S. super carriers to Australia – for them to man and patrol the oceans around that vast country with.

I can only hope they discussed this plan which I sent to Ms. Bishop last year. The idea would benefit both countries enormously and is exactly the kind of cooperation America and her allies need to remain strategically, financially, and militarily strong far into the future.

Here is my Carrier Plan — and the article below that is about the Tillerson/Bishop meeting.

The Australian and U.S. Navy Have a Problem — I Have a Solution

By Karl Spain

The idea that America would slide gently out of the cold war and not need aircraft carriers far into the future, is well, naïve.

The question about how to project American air power for the next 30 to 50 years is complicated by two realities, one realized and the other about to be.

The first reality is fiscal.

The Navy cannot afford to continue to project power though the traditional reliance/use of a A. large (plus 10 in number) nuclear powered carrier fleet, B. modernize the America class helicopter and amphibious assault carrier fleet, C. replace the Ohio class nuclear subs (completely unbudgeted at the moment, like a $100 billion black hole every physicist in the room is ignoring), and D. integrate the first VTOL joint service fighters, all the while maintaining a E. credible base structure, F. and remaining 300 (more or less) surface ship fleet structure.

Assuming an average of $18B (CapEx) over the next 30 years, the new construction priorities list above will be shredded and the resulting service, so shriveled, the U.S. Navy mission statement itself will have to change.

The second reality is the failing traditional aircraft carrier vulnerability and cost practicality trade off.

Just as Billy Mitchell predicted the eventual — but inevitable end of the battleship era — because of the mismatch between the expense and delivery capability of air launched torpedoes’ and their intended targets (Battleships) that same argument applies today to the modern aircraft carrier and a combination of sea, air, and land based missile and torpedo systems.

When a $20/30 billion dollar weapons system (that cost includes escort ships) with 5,000+ souls on board is vulnerable to an ever-increasing array of sub $100 million missile weapons systems, the balance tips from projecting power to becoming a target.

Traditional Super Carriers (TSC) are impressive; long running, fast (35+ knots), can launch Vertical Take-Off and Landing (VTOL) and non-VTOL aircraft, and support an entire air wing; with fuel, and high armament capabilities and high load and reload flexibility. On the down side they are a huge target, (+100ton) need a flotilla of support ships, 5,000 souls to operate, and have a combination of high construction and maintenance costs.

Despite these drawbacks and vulnerabilities for Traditional Super Carriers (TSC) themselves, it’s still necessary to maintain a fleet of them, but I would spread the financial load of construction, staffing and patrol load costs among the nations we can count on to help us with that and whose seas we are patrolling anyway with those same carriers.


I would sign a long-term (99 year) Naval Protection Agreement (NPA) with the country of Australia, that calls for (in addition to other stuff) the positioning of two new Ford class (2) Traditional Super Carriers on either side of that continent, and over 10 years, train and transfer operation, ownership and fiscal responsibility of those 2 platforms to Australian Naval personnel, along with all the air wing and support ship structure/capability.

This would simultaneously lower American Naval costs and strengthen our deterrent capability in the Pacific and Atlantic oceans on the two sides of Australia.

Australia is uniquely suited to this first partnership, a stalwart alley for generations, a large island nation with huge oceans to protect and only 24 million people, — not enough to afford the development, construction and deployment of 2 super carriers — although they need them. Win-win.


I would sign an identical Naval Protection Agreement (NPA) with the island nation of Japan, using the Australian process and document as a model (pre-invite the Japanese to watch the negotiation/implementation process with the Australian Navy) to also position two new Ford class (2) TSC’s on either side of that island, and over 10 years, train and transfer operation, ownership and fiscal responsibility of those 2 platforms to Japanese Naval personnel, along with all the air wing and support ship capability.

This would simultaneously lower American Naval costs and strengthen our deterrent capability in the Pacific Ocean and China Sea.

Japan is uniquely suited to this second partnership, a stalwart alley for a generation now, Japan is a small island nation with a huge economy, right smack in the center of the South China Sea, the most important section of open water in the world today. Japan has huge interests and a sophisticated military and a lot of ocean to protect and can only proceed with the proper defense of their country through such an agreement with the U.S. since they are constitutionally prohibited from pursuing the deployment of such a weapon system under any other legal course.

They can afford the development, construction and deployment of 2 super carriers – and we should let them pay, plus part of the cost for one of the Australian carriers since that one will help cover their flank. Another Win-win.


I would sign such an NPA with the United Kingdom, to position one (1) TSC, built by the British (conventional not nuclear, 70,000 tons) on the Atlantic side of that island, and take the next carrier under construction in that family and use as one of the two either described above as going to Japan or Australia. This would simultaneously lower American Naval costs since this step would allow the total number of Ford class TSC built to be lowered by 2 and simultaneously strengthen our deterrent capability in the EU/Atlantic theater. The UK is obviously a stalwart ally, an island nation and has a strong naval tradition, 3 terrific reasons to make them country number 1, 2, or 3 to do this with.

Although the British deal will probably be the least advantageous to the U.S. financially it could work out the other way around since they have built one of these carriers, are committed to building the 2nd, and acknowledge, they can’t use both. That’s why I list the British proposal last, because this program is designed to get the Navy the money they need to build the Ohio class replacement subs, so I didn’t want to set a generous example first, and then have to do the same for the Aussies and the Japanese) it will dramatically change the balance of power in Europe.

With such a different long-term deployment plan, the U.S. could still build, staff, maintain and afford a smaller (in U.S. number) super carrier fleet, that combined with the others would still be a 7 or 8 Ford class TSC’s fleet in total, but with only 4 or 5 of those super carriers totally free for U.S. deployment priorities.

Since the British, Australian and Japanese carriers (5 of the 10) would be integrated into our overall defense umbrella, with joint command and deployment responsibilities, and entire ocean area coverage responsibilities — the resulting smaller U.S. carrier fleet would have more mission flexibility and considerably less ocean to cover.

I would scrape the America class (no well deck, I don’t understand that) Marine assault carriers at $3B apiece altogether (these ships have many problems, some of them structural, and are unfixable in my opinion) and buy instead 10 Mistral class French assault ships at $600 million per.

Modify them (The doorways will have to be enlarged) to carry the Osprey (and smaller numbers of aircraft per ship, but more ships) and your total punching power would be far greater. With 10 Mistral’s at $600-800 million a piece, you get a lot more punching power than with 2 America class ships at a total of $6 Billion, and if you buy now you also get the benefit of buying up all the fantastic product of this unique French production line.

Each Mistral ship we buy is one the Russians don’t get to buy. If the Austrians, Japanese and British like the Super Carrier Deal or the NPA as I call it, they’ll soon want to expand it to include some of these terrific little French assault carriers as well. Putting them in the deal we could buy 20 of these for less than half of what we planning to spend on just a few those America class ships.

We might even be able to get the French to sell us the one they’ve already built for the Russians; and stop the sale of the 2nd Mistral ship the Russians have also ordered. It would be best for the U.S., the French, and the rest of the world — if Putin never gets this Mistral ship(s) — or any from this production line.

These ideas together form a package, a TSC fleet (10) supported by the Australian, Japanese and British Navy — further supported by a large fleet (20) of Mistral class assault marine ships — our Naval war fighting capability would be greatly magnified for the foreseeable future at lower overall costs to the American tax payer.

I estimate you could do the package described above, including penalties and cost overruns, for $15 billion a year in CapEx, instead of the $18 billion I used as a compromise figure although I suspect if all the real sub numbers were in these budget estimates, none of these estimates are accurate, they are all low. All the more reason to pursue this plan, it will provide a financial cushion without sacrificing front line strike capability, in fact, multiplying it.

I also feel it’s politically and fiscally achievable to get such a set of Naval agreements with the Australian, Japanese and British governments; as well their militaries and also would expect public support (for sure) in Australia and UK, and probably even in Japan, it would depend upon how it was sold to them, and how threatened they feel by the Chinese at the time they’re asked. At a $1B each from this allies, net to the US Navy, for 25 years, ($75B) with 2 Ford class carriers subtracted from the total, this gets the Navy the 100B+ needed to make this capital budget work with the new subs in, although possibly reduced in number.

Of course, such agreements will pave the way for similar types of cooperative structures; trail blazed by the USN in other countries and maybe the other services.

Here is the AFP piece from this morning by Thomas Watkins.

SYDNEY (AFP) – China and other nations must strengthen efforts to curb North Korea’s nuclear weapons programme, US Secretary of State Rex Tillerson said Monday, while also calling out Beijing over its South China Sea activities.

America’s top diplomat, speaking after talks in Sydney, also gave a brief response to the unfolding crisis in the Gulf, where Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and Egypt have all announced they are severing ties with gas-rich Qatar.

In the Asia-Pacific region, the United States has spent recent weeks trying to reassure allies it can maintain a tough line against China’s “militarisation” of the South China Sea while at the same time seeking help from Beijing.

President Donald Trump — who frequently denounced China on the campaign trail — has turned to Beijing to help rein in ally North Korea’s weapons programme, prompting concern among Asian allies that America might go easy on the South China Sea territorial dispute.

“We desire productive relationships,” Tillerson said after annual discussions with his Australian counterpart Julie Bishop in Sydney.

“But we cannot allow China to use its economic power to buy its way out of other problems, whether it’s militarising islands in the South China Sea or failing to put appropriate pressure on North Korea.”

He said China and other regional partners should “step up” efforts to help solve the North Korea situation, because it presents a threat to the “entire world.”

China claims nearly all of the South China Sea despite partial counter-claims from Taiwan, the Philippines, Brunei, Malaysia and Vietnam.

It has rapidly built reefs into artificial islands capable of hosting military planes.

Tillerson reiterated US and Australian commitment to freedom of navigation in the South China Sea to “ensure unimpeded flow of lawful commerce in a rules-based order”.

But reporters asked Tillerson if America was applying a double standard in telling countries to adhere to the international order while simultaneously pulling out of a trans-Pacific trade deal and the Paris climate accords — moves that prompted even longstanding allies to question whether America was retreating into isolationism.

“That’s why we’re here, that’s why we travel to the region, that?s why we engage with our counterparts,” Tillerson said, standing alongside Pentagon chief Jim Mattis, Bishop and Australian Defence Minister Marise Payne.

We “travel to the region to meet with our counterparts and talk about all the issues that are important to them and hear from them concerns about where the (Trump) administration is positioned”.

– ‘Remain united’ –

Addressing the situation in the Gulf, Tillerson called on countries there to stay united and work out their differences.

“We certainly would encourage the parties to sit down together and address these differences,” he said.

“If there’s any role that we can play in terms of helping them address those, we think it is important that the GCC (Gulf Cooperation Council) remain united.”

Riyadh cut diplomatic relations and closed borders with its neighbour Qatar to “protect its national security from the dangers of terrorism and extremism”, the official Saudi Press Agency said.

Tillerson and Mattis both said they did not anticipate any impact on efforts by a US-led coalition to battle the Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria.

The coalition currently conducts much of its operational planning and coordination from Al-Udeid air base in Qatar.

“I am confident there will be no implications coming out of this diplomatic situation at all, and I say that based on the commitment that each of these nations… have made to this fight,” Mattis said.

The US defense secretary blasted Iran for its “various destabilising efforts” in the region, referring to Iranian support for Syrian President Bashar al-Assad and Tehran’s involvement in the Yemen war.

by Thomas WATKINS

About karlspain

20 year Newspaperman. Lifelong Inventor. Wrote 2 books so far, working on more. The Revelation, 1st book, about your brain & the universe, and math. Hooked together! God I trust, America I love, 2nd book, is the biography of Aris Mardirossian, a great man. Also owned a software company, an IT integration company, a gas station and a fuzzy logic software title along the way.
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